Granawin Casino - Игрок заявляет о задержке выплат.

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Dear Twins,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. We are sorry to hear about the issue with your withdrawal and understand your concern. However, please bear in mind that it’s quite usual for withdrawals to take a couple of days or even weeks to get fully processed. This means that it may take some time before your money appears in your account. This delay may be caused by unfinished KYC verification or a high volume of withdrawal requests.
That’s why we advise players to be patient, cooperate fully with casino, and wait at least 14 days after requesting their withdrawals before submitting a complaint.

If your account has been successfully verified, your game history checked, your withdrawal approved by the casino, and you still haven't received your winnings by 14 days since requesting the withdrawal, we will intervene and do our best to help you.
Thank you in advance for your patience and understanding.

Best regards,
Complaints Resolution Center

Thanks for the reply, but the problem is that the withdrawals aren't pending. They've been canceled.

Obrigado pela resposta, mas o que se passa é que os levantamentos não estão pendentes. Foram cancelados.

I really need to sort this out as it's a great injustice.

Preciso mesmo de resolver isto pois é uma grande injustiça.

Dear Twins,

I hope you are doing well. As the recommended time frame has now passed, could you kindly update us on whether your withdrawal has successfully been received or if there have been any new developments regarding your case? Thank you for your time, and I look forward to your response.

Nothing has been resolved. Payments have been canceled. I need support. Thank you.

Nada resolvido. Os pagamentos foram cancelados. Necessito apoio. Obrigado.

A very important piece of information for this case. There were no such conditions at B20. I was migrated to Granawin and was never asked to approve these new rules.

Uma informação muito importante para este caso. Na B20 não existiam estas condições. Eu fui migrado para a Granawin e nunca me colocaram estas novas regras para aprovar.

Dear Twins, we would like to remind you that you have been informed several times about the maximum bet rule while playing with an active bonus.

However, our records show that you repeatedly exceeded the allowed limit of €5 while using the Special Casino Welcome Bonus. For example, you placed a €10 bet on Crazy Balls and won €3,000. You also placed a €12 bet on Monopoly Big Baller, winning €1,288. In addition, you made nine bets of €37.50, one bet of €29, and several others ranging between €10 and €26, all while the bonus was still active.

Please note that exceeding the maximum bet limit while a bonus is active is a violation of the bonus terms and conditions.

The Welcome Bonus was applied automatically and without consent.

This point remains unanswered:

I did not request the bonus.

I am not a new customer - my account has been migrated from B20 Casino, including balance, points and VIP status.

A Welcome Bonus cannot be applied to a migrated customer. These conditions did not exist at B20 Casino.

The system never blocked, warned or limited any bets. How can I guess if this wasn't happening before?

Thank you.

O Bónus de Boas‑Vindas foi aplicado automaticamente e sem consentimento.

Este ponto continua sem resposta:

Eu não solicitei o bónus.

Não sou um novo cliente — a minha conta foi migrada da B20 Casino, incluindo saldo, pontos e estatuto VIP.

Um Bónus de Boas‑Vindas não pode ser aplicado a um cliente migrado. Estas condições não existiam na B20 Casino.

O sistema nunca bloqueou, avisou ou limitou qualquer aposta. Como posso adivinhar se isto não se passava anteriormente?

Obrigado.

And the stakes were these:

€1 Coin Flip → 3000x

€4 Monopoly Big Baller → 322x

Thank you!

E as aposta foram estas:

€1 Coin Flip → 3000x

€4 Monopoly Big Baller → 322x

Obrigado!

Dear Twins,

Thank you for your cooperation and for providing all the necessary information. I truly appreciate the time and effort you’ve taken to share everything with us so far.

Your complaint will now move to the next stage of our process and be handled by your dedicated Resolver, Kubo, ([email protected]). This is a standard step in our procedure, as the Resolver will take over communication with the casino directly and manage your case from this point onward.

No action is required from you right now. Your Resolver will reach out through this thread if any additional details are needed. You can rest assured that your case is in very capable hands.

I wish you the best of luck and hope your case will be resolved to your satisfaction soon.

Kind regards,

Karla Mayfly

Thank you. I would like to add this information from Granawin's VIP Manager where she states that everything will stay the same:

Hello, dear Joao, 😊

I hope you are well.

Please don't worry, I have news for you.

I'm contacting you to let you know that your account will be automatically transferred to our new platform: http://granawin.com/.

The process will be simple and smooth, and you'll be able to log in using your current username and password. 🔐

Please rest assured, the following points will be transferred to your new account:

- Your VIP level.

- Your balance (real and bonus).

- Your CP points.

- I will continue to be your VIP manager and accompany you there. 🤝

For you, everything will remain pretty much the same, as a continuation of your current experience. ✨

Before transferring, let me know if you have any:

- Open bets

- Pending withdrawals

- Active or pending bonuses

If so, reply to this email and I'll review everything to make sure it's all correct. 👍

In addition, I have a special bonus for you as a welcome on Granawin. 🎁

You can also save my new email: [email protected] 📩

I look forward to continuing this new stage together. 💛

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‼️ IMPORTANT ‼️

Once you've joined, send me your Telegram link or username.

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Sincerely,

Kate VIP.

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Obrigado. Gostaria de adicionar esta informação da Gestora VIP da Granawin onde afirma que tudo ficará da mesma forma:

Olá, querido Joao, 😊

Espero que você esteja bem.

Por favor, não se preocupe, tenho novidades para você.

Estou entrando em contato para te informar que sua conta será transferida automaticamente para nossa nova plataforma: http://granawin.com/

O processo será simples e tranquilo, e você poderá acessar usando seu usuário e senha atuais. 🔐

Por favor, fique tranquilo, os seguintes pontos serão transferidos para sua nova conta:

• Seu nível VIP.

• Seu saldo (real e bônus).

• Seus pontos CP.

• Eu continuarei sendo sua VIP manager e te acompanhando por lá. 🤝

Para você, tudo continuará praticamente igual, como uma continuação da sua experiência atual. ✨

Antes da transferência, me avise se você possui:

• Apostas em aberto

• Saques pendentes

• Bônus ativos ou pendentes

Se for o caso, responda este e-mail e eu reviso tudo para garantir que esteja tudo correto. 👍

Além disso, tenho um bônus especial para você como boas-vindas no Granawin. 🎁

Você também pode salvar meu novo e-mail: [email protected] 📩

Estou ansiosa para continuarmos juntos nessa nova etapa. 💛

🎉 Junte-se ao canal VIP do Telegram para extras exclusivos! 🎉

👉 Clique aqui para entrar!

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Assim que entrar, envie-me o seu link ou nome de usuário do Telegram.

💡 Nota: Para participar de sorteios e promoções, esse passo é obrigatório! Não perca! 😊

Atenciosamente,

Kate VIP. 

Horário de atendimento: 

De segunda a sexta-feira: 08:00-16:00 GMT

Dear Twins,

It is a pleasure to e-meet you; my name is Kubo, and I will be overseeing your complaint from this point forward.

If there have been any updates or changes since your last correspondence, please feel free to share them with me at your convenience.

In line with our standard procedure, I would like to invite a representative from Granawin Casino to join this conversation. Their involvement will facilitate a smoother and more efficient resolution to your case.

Dear Granawin Casino,

If you could kindly provide detailed information regarding the player’s issue, I would greatly appreciate it. Specifically, could you clarify the account transfer from the different platform? Was the player’s account transferred as stated, along with all the associated stats mentioned in the last message? Additionally, was the first deposit bonus activated automatically?

Thank you in advance for your cooperation and prompt response.

Best regards,

Kubo

Hello, Kubo. Thanks, Kubo. There's nothing new. Just a great sense of injustice at everything that's happened. I look forward to a positive resolution of the case. I have always been and will always be a player / person who plays by the rules. It's important to know them in advance. In the case of the transfer, I didn't accept any new terms and conditions. It was a platform transfer only.

Olá Kubo. Obrigado. Não existe nada de novo. Apenas um grande sentimento de injustiça com tudo o que se passou. Fico a aguardar uma resolução positiva do caso. Sempre fui e serei um jogador / pessoa que cumpre as regras. É importante é saber delas antecipadamente. Neste caso da transferência eu não não aceitei nenhuns novos termos e condições. Foi uma transferência de plataforma apenas.

Dear Kubo,

Thank you for your continued monitoring of my case.

I would like to reinforce with the utmost clarity and vehemence an absolutely central point, which cannot be ignored in this analysis:

The conditions now invoked by Granawin DID NOT EXIST in the B20 Casino

-I am a long-time B20 Casino player.

-My account was fully migrated to Granawin (balance, VIP, points, history).

-I play in exactly the same way as I always have, with the same habits, limits and types of bets.

-There has never been a rule at B20 Casino equivalent to the one now being applied to justify the confiscation.

At no time

-I was informed of relevant new rules,

-been alerted to changes in playing conditions,

-accepted new Terms and Conditions,

-been treated as a new customer.

The migration was explicitly presented as a continuation of the existing experience, which is confirmed by written communication from the VIP Manager.

👉 It is manifestly unfair and contrary to good industry practice to apply new, more restrictive and penalizing rules to a migrated player, without prior warning and without explicit consent, especially when the system has allowed all game activity without any blocking or warning.

I reiterate that:

-I neither requested nor activated the bonus,

-I was not aware of any different rules,

-I played in good faith, as I always have at B20 Casino.

For these reasons, I maintain that the confiscation of winnings is unjustified and request that the decision be reversed and the €4,699 paid.

I am available for any further clarification you may deem necessary.

Best regards,

Twins

Portugal

Caro Kubo,

Obrigado pelo acompanhamento contínuo do meu caso.

Gostaria de reforçar com a máxima clareza e veemência um ponto absolutamente central, que não pode ser ignorado nesta análise:

As condições agora invocadas pelo Granawin NÃO EXISTIAM no B20 Casino

•Sou um jogador de longa data do B20 Casino.

•A minha conta foi integralmente migrada para o Granawin (saldo, VIP, pontos, histórico).

•Joguei exatamente da mesma forma que sempre joguei, com os mesmos hábitos, limites e tipos de apostas.

•Nunca existiu no B20 Casino uma regra equivalente à que agora está a ser aplicada para justificar o confisco.

Em momento algum:

•fui informado de novas regras relevantes,

•fui alertado para alterações nas condições de jogo,

•aceitei novos Termos e Condições,

•fui tratado como um novo cliente.

A migração foi apresentada explicitamente como uma continuação da experiência existente, o que é confirmado por comunicação escrita da Gestora VIP.

👉 É manifestamente injusto e contrário às boas práticas da indústria aplicar regras novas, mais restritivas e penalizadoras a um jogador migrado, sem aviso prévio e sem consentimento explícito, sobretudo quando o sistema permitiu toda a atividade de jogo sem qualquer bloqueio ou alerta.

Reitero que:

•não solicitei nem ativei o bónus,

•não tinha conhecimento de regras diferentes,

•joguei de boa‑fé, como sempre joguei no B20 Casino.

Por estas razões, mantenho que a confiscação dos ganhos não é justificada e solicito a reversão da decisão e o pagamento dos €4.699.

Fico disponível para qualquer esclarecimento adicional que considere necessário.

Com os melhores cumprimentos,

Twins

Portugal

We would like to clarify again that the main issue in this case relates to the player repeatedly ignoring multiple warnings regarding the maximum bet rule while playing with an active bonus. The player was warned and chose to ignore. Despite these warnings, our records show that the player repeatedly exceeded the allowed limit while the bonus remained active. For example, the player placed a €10 bet on Crazy Balls and won €3,000, as well as a €12 bet on Monopoly Big Baller, resulting in winnings of €1,288. Additionally, the player placed nine bets of €37.50, one bet of €29, and several other bets ranging from €10 to €26 during the active bonus period.

Good morning. I never received any warning, pop-up, notification or block about alleged bets over the limit while the bonus was active. All bets - including those within the €5 limit - were accepted and paid out normally by the system, without any warning or hindrance. The narrative that I ignored "several warnings" is totally false and does not correspond to reality. If such warnings existed, you would have been able to present them - which you didn't, because they simply never existed.

I hope that you will correct this false information and that the case will be dealt with on the basis of the real facts.

Bom Dia. Nunca recebi qualquer aviso, pop‑up, notificação ou bloqueio sobre supostas apostas acima do limite enquanto o bónus estava ativo. Todas as apostas — incluindo as dentro do limite de €5 — foram aceites e pagas normalmente pelo sistema, sem qualquer alerta ou impedimento. A narrativa de que ignorei "vários avisos" é totalmente falsa e não corresponde à realidade. Se existissem tais avisos, vocês seriam capazes de os apresentar — o que não aconteceu, porque simplesmente nunca existiram.

Aguardo que corrijam esta informação falsa e que o caso seja tratado com base nos factos reais.

I never - I repeat, never - received any warning, pop-up, block, notification or alert about betting limits while the bonus was active. Your own system accepted all bets without a hitch. The attempt to rewrite reality with false claims that "I ignored several warnings" is absurd and unacceptable. I will not tolerate you distorting facts to justify wrongfully withholding legitimate winnings.

I expect you to immediately correct this fabricated version of events and deal with the case on the basis of real data, not fiction.

Nunca — repito, nunca — recebi qualquer aviso, pop‑up, bloqueio, notificação ou alerta sobre limites de aposta enquanto o bónus estava ativo. O vosso próprio sistema aceitou todas as apostas sem qualquer impedimento. A tentativa de reescrever a realidade com alegações falsas de que "ignorei vários avisos" é absurda e inaceitável. Não tolerarei que distorçam factos para justificar a retenção indevida de ganhos legítimos.

Aguardo que corrijam imediatamente esta versão fabricada dos acontecimentos e tratem o caso com base em dados reais, não em ficção.

Dear Granawin Casino,

In your latest post, you stated that the player was warned multiple times about exceeding the maximum bet limit but chose to ignore those warnings. However, the player claims that no such warnings were ever received.

Could you please clarify how and when these warnings were allegedly communicated to the player? For example, were they issued via live chat, email, on-screen notifications, or another method?

Thank you in advance for your clarification.

Thanks Kubo.

From my point of view, the casino's claim that I was "warned several times" about the maximum bet limit is totally FALSE. IT NEVER HAPPENED. At no time did I receive any warning - neither before, during nor after betting.

I therefore need this claim to be clarified objectively:

How and when were these warnings supposedly communicated?

Were they sent via live chat, email, notifications on the interface, pop-ups, or via some other verifiable method? THEY WERE NOT!

So far, the casino has not provided a single piece of evidence that such warnings existed. NOR WILL IT BE ABLE TO, BECAUSE THEY ARE FALSE!

And with this claim being used as the basis for justifying the decision taken, I consider it essential that the casino provides:

Complete records of the alleged warnings

The exact time at which each warning was issued

The means of communication used

Logs or screenshots proving that I was actually notified. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. THEY DIDN'T EXIST.

Without this evidence, the casino's claim has no validity and cannot be used as grounds for penalizing the player - in this case, me.

Best regards.

Obrigado Kubo.

Do meu ponto de vista, a afirmação do casino de que eu fui "avisado diversas vezes" sobre o limite máximo de aposta é totalmente FALSA. NUNCA ACONTECEU. Em momento algum recebi qualquer aviso — nem antes, nem durante, nem depois das apostas.

Por isso, preciso que esta alegação seja esclarecida de forma objetiva:

Como e quando esses avisos foram supostamente comunicados?

Foram enviados por chat ao vivo, e‑mail, notificações na interface, pop‑ups, ou através de algum outro método verificável? NÃO FORAM!

Até agora, o casino não apresentou uma única prova de que tais avisos existiram. NEM VAI CONSEGUIR APRESENTAR POIS SÃO FALSAS!

E, sendo esta afirmação usada como base para justificar a decisão tomada, considero essencial que o casino apresente:

Registos completos dos alegados avisos

Horário exato em que cada aviso teria sido emitido

O meio de comunicação utilizado

Logs ou capturas de ecrã que comprovem que fui efetivamente notificado. É IMPOSSÍVEL. NÃO EXISTIRAM.

Sem estas evidências, a afirmação do casino não tem qualquer validade e não pode ser usada como fundamento para penalizar o jogador — neste caso, eu.

Melhores Cumprimentos.

We completely understand the importance of providing objective evidence to clarify this situation. To ensure we address the questions accurately and transparently, we have escalated this request to our technical and compliance teams. Thank you for your patience and understanding in the meantime.

Dear Granawin Casino,

Could you please provide an update?

Thank you.