Мошенничество в казино Kinbet? (Страница 6)

We are not lawyers here either, so I am unable to say what is legal or not. But if you believe that it is, perhaps you should completely avoid playing at their casinos, right?

Also, if you'd like our complaint team to try and help you out with your payout, you should file a complaint. We will then intervene and hopefully get in contact with the casino regarding your issue, because waiting for that long is surely not right, of course.

So, will you go for it?

Why would you assume that it's a scam, though? Have you experienced some issues there?

I received my money within 4 days.

Four calendar days, mind you, it was actually six days.

Ich habe innerhalb von 4 Tagen mein Geld bekommen.

4Kalendertage, wohl gemerkt, es waren tatsächlich 6 Tage

Great, is that acceptable to you, or is it too long to wait for the money? 

That's okay, as long as you know it will arrive.

I had previously read horror stories here about them trying to avoid paying.

Then you naturally get nervous, because the statutes also state 1-3 days.

Das ist ok, wenn man es weiss das es ankommt.

Ich hatte hier nur vorher schon Horrorgeschichten gelesen das die sich vorm Bezahlen drücken.

Dann wird man natürlich nervös, weil auch 1-3 Tage in den Statuten steht

Yes, I understand that, but I wouldn't always rely on what the casino says, because sometimes various things can happen that slow down the withdrawal process. But as long as everything is fine and you haven't had any problems here, I'm happy.

How long have you been playing at this casino?

At least one year, but the payment was never made.

You can deposit even very small amounts, like €10, and I consider the wagering requirement (x45 minimum) to be gambling. That's why I never held out any hope of ever withdrawing anything from there.

However, regarding the €250 and €600 wins, I have to add that I once had a winning streak and bought €60 worth of free spins for Madame Destiny, where I got 43 spins with a 90x multiplier. I also lost what I had withdrawn from that win because absolutely nothing worked in any of the games anymore.

Mindestens 1 Jahr, aber es kam nie zur Auszahlung.

Da kann man auch Kleinstbeträge, 10€, einzahlen und ich sehe das wagern (x45 mind) auch schon als Zocken an. Deshalb habe ich mir nie Hoffnungen gemacht überhaupt mal etwas dort auszuzahlen.

Aber von den 250€ und den 600€ muss ich dazu sagen das ich einmal einen Lauf hatte und Madame Destiny für 60€ Freispiele gekauft habe und dort 43 Spiele x90fach hatte. Ich habe von diesem Gewinn auch das verloren was ich ausgezahlt habe, weil in jedem Spiel rein gar nichts mehr lief.

I think gambling works like that. Sometimes you win a pretty nice sum, and then you can lose everything you won. That's why it's important to know when to stop, I would say.  

However, if you ever have a problem with withdrawing your money, you can contact us. It is important to note that we give casinos 14 days to resolve such issues. 

I hope you do well and that you will be able to tell me that you have withdrawn your money from here too.🙂

Yes, currently very good indeed.

I once received €600, then I thought I could take a chance and added a total of €40 afterwards.

And what can I say?

I made another €740 from that, so €700 in the next payout... and now for the kicker:

With the remaining €40 I'm now at almost €2100 (minus the €700 in the payout, they stupidly didn't break that down).

So, practically speaking, there's almost €1400 more to be paid out soon.

Ja, momentan sogar sehr gut.

Habe einmal schon 600€ kassiert, dann dachte ich kann man es wagen und hab insgesamt 40€ hinterher geschoben.

Und was soll ich sagen?

Hab davon noch mal 740€ gemacht, also 700€ in der nächsten Auszahlung ..... und jetzt kommts:

Mit den restlichen 40€ bin ich mittlerweile auf fast 2100€ (abzüglich der 700€ in der Auszahlung, das haben die doof weil nicht unterteilt.

Also praktisch sind noch knapp 1400€ mehr zur Auszahlung bald.

Well, I see you're lucky. Please keep me updated on how the withdrawals are going and whether you get them. I'll be curious to see how it goes and how long it takes.

Good luck.☘️

The first €600 arrived in my bank account within 3 working days (after the deposit date and the weekend), so 6 calendar days. I really can't say anything negative about that.

I'll try to withdraw the rest via Bitpanda. Support told me that all the withdrawal options I see are possible, as long as it's my personal account.

My brother once won a five-figure sum and had a lot of problems with it. Afterwards, his banker even hinted that it wasn't a good idea to have such large sums of money in his checking account.

Die ersten 600€ waren in 3 Werktagen (nach Einzahlungstag und Wochenende) also 6 Kalendertagen auf meinem Bankkonto. Da kann ich wirklich nichts negatives sagen.

Ich werde aber mal versuchen den Rest über Bitpanda auszahlen zu lassen. Der Support sagte mir alles was ich im Auszahlungsbereich an Möglichkeiten sehe ist möglich, solange es mein persönliches Konto ist.

Mein Bruder hatte einmal 5stellig gewonnen und sehr viel Probleme damit. Und anschliessend hat sein Banker Ihm noch Andeutungen gemacht, das es nicht sehr gut ist solche Summen übers Giro laufen zu lassen.

Excellent.

Regarding the payment method, did the casino recommend it to you? You may need to verify it if you haven't used it to withdraw money before, but I don't think that will be a problem.

May it continue to be on the right track.

I asked about it, and they told me that everything on their list was no problem.

They only need to be accounts in my name, which they are.

But I have something else in mind:

I deposit the money into MiFinity and from there transfer it to PayPal.

But first, €700 of the €2100 will be transferred to the bank account this week.

So I don't have large sums of money at the bank.

Ich habe danach gefragt, da sagte man mir das alles kein Problem ist was bei denen auf der Liste steht.

Es müssen nur Konten sein die auf meinen Namen sind, das sind sie ja.

Aber ich habe es noch anders vor:

Ich zahle das bei MiFinity ein und von dort aus nach paypal.

Aber erst einmal gehen diese Woche noch 700€ von 2100€ auf Bankkonto.

So habe ich keine großen Summen bei der Bank

It's up to you how you do it. Just make sure everything is in order, but if the casino has approved it, there shouldn't be any problems.🙂

Hmm, ..... now it's starting for me. Suddenly I'm supposed to verify my identity.

And it's just like others have said: you have to upload everything individually, and each upload is checked for up to 48 hours. Discussing it with support is pointless; all you get is copy/pasted replies like, "It's all for your own security... blah blah."

I've now uploaded the front of my passport and that's it for the next 24-48 hours.

So what should I do? Submit everything in a few weeks or file a complaint right away?

HM, ..... jetzt geht es bei mir los. Plötzlich soll ich mich verifizieren.

Und es ist wie schon andere sagen: Man muss alles einzeln hoch laden und das wird jeweils einzeln bis zu 48std geprüft. Eine Diskussion mit dem Support ist zwecklos, außer copy/past kommt da nichts "es dient alles zu Ihrer eigenen Sicherheit ... blabla"

Habe jetzt die Vorderseite meines Pass hoch geladen und das wars erst einmal für 24-48 std.

Was also tun? Alles in evtl Wochen einreichen oder gleich beschweren?

So if the casino has requested verification, you will have to comply. But just to be clear, how long did it take them to ask you to complete this process, and how long ago did you submit your withdrawal request? 

Be sure to send them everything they need, otherwise you won't get anywhere. It's quite impractical for them to check every single document for two days.

If you give me information about how long you've been waiting for your withdrawal, I'll try to advise you whether it's better to wait or open a complaint.

I applied for the €700 payment on February 6th, 2025. That was a Friday, so I could have understood if it had taken until this Friday. But I almost didn't believe they'd come at me like this. Especially since a previous payment of €600 went through without all these checks.

But this is how it works with them: after I entered the front of my passport, the verification page closed and it said that it was now being checked. I can't enter anything else anywhere; I only see this:

And that takes 24-48 hours. Whether the reverse side arrives and we have to wait again – we'll see. But they also require a selfie with precise passport numbers and bank statements, etc.

It feels like they're working extra slowly, hoping that I might gamble away a lot of the winnings again.

Habe die Auszahlung von 700€ am 06.02.2025 beantragt. Das war an einem Freitag, da hätte ich es noch verstanden wenn es bis jetzt Freitag gedauert hätte. Aber das die mir nun so kommen hätte ich fast nicht geglaubt. Zumal ja schon eine Auszahlung von 600€ vorher so durch ging, ohne diese ganzen Prüfungen.

Aber es läuft so bei denen, nachdem ich die Vorderseite meines Pass eingegeben habe ging die Prüfseite zu und es wurde gesagt das das nun geprüft wird. Kann weiter nichts mehr irgendwo eingeben sondern sehe nur das:

Und das dauert 24-48 std. Ob dann die Rückseite kommt und wieder warten - wir werden es sehen. Aber die verlangen ja noch ein Selfie mit genauer Angabe der Passnummern und Kontoauszüge etc .....

Man "arbeitet" also extra langsam, in der Hoffnung das ich evtl viel vom Gewinn wieder verspiele habe ich das Gefühl.

Well, don't gamble with the money and just wait to see if they verify you and what they will need. How long have you been doing verification in total? 14 Days is what we give casinos. If they don't manage it by then, I would file a complaint. 

Since yesterday, February 9th, I'm suddenly supposed to verify my identity.

And no, that's probably the advantage of playing small stakes; I'm not touching the money that's sitting there. I'd rather deposit some at another casino. What's sitting there should stay there; I've already got it more or less earmarked for other things in real life.

Seit gestern, also dem 09.02. soll ich mich plötzlich verifizieren.

Und nein, das ist wohl der Vorteil wenn man kleine Einsätze spielt, ich rühe das liegende Geld nicht an. Eher würde ich in einem anderen Casino etwas einzahlen. Was liegt soll auch liegen bleiben; habe es schon einigermaßen fest verplant im Realleben.

So, we are still only at the beginning of the verification process. We will see what happens and take the next step accordingly. For now, we need to be patient. 🙂