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Dear Derzahndealer,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem.

Please understand that KYC is a very important and essential process, during which the casino makes sure that the money is sent to the rightful owner. As they don't have the luxury of being able to physically see all of the players and check their identification and documents, this is the only way gambling establishments can complete the verification procedures. None of the serious and licensed casinos takes KYC lightly, and it might take a few working days to complete this thorough process.

• What specific documents did you upload on April 9, and did you receive any confirmation from the casino after submission?
• Have you provided all the required documents as soon as possible and in the correct format?
• Can you elaborate on the "unrealistic tasks" that the casino has been requesting from you during the verification process?

I hope we will be able to help you resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you in advance for your reply.

Best regards

Petra

Hello Petra,

Thank you for your help. Here are the answers to your questions:

1. Documents uploaded on April 9th:

I uploaded my ID (issued March 10th, 2026), a residency proof, and bank statements from Revolut. I did NOT receive an official confirmation, instead, the verification status was simply reset to "pending" or "empty" multiple times without any comment from the casino.

2. Submission and Format:

I submitted everything immediately in high-resolution JPG/PDF formats. I noticed later that due to extreme stress, I had two minor typos (a "b" instead of "n" in my street name on one document. Hinzukommend, eine Händlerverwechselung, da die Buchung meiner Einzahlung, einen Tag später auftauchte und am selben Tag, zu der gleichen Zeit, derselbe Betrag, vom Konto abgebucht wurde). Instead of notifying me about these small errors to fix them, the casino chose to ignore me completely and reset my status silently for weeks. This proves their intention is to stall, not to verify.

3. "Unrealistic Tasks":

The casino demanded a selfie where I hold my ID while simultaneously showing their website dashboard on a monitor in the background. Since I play on mobile and do not have a second high-res camera/monitor setup that can capture both a sharp ID text and a flickering screen, this is technically nearly impossible for a regular user. Furthermore, they demanded 3-6 months of full bank statements for a single €30 deposit, which is excessive.

Current Status:

The support (Janina) recently told me the case was "forwarded to a specialist department," but I have heard nothing since. My balance is €7,500 and I have been waiting since March 26th.

I am attaching screenshots of:

The €7,500 balance.

The support admitting to "technical errors." Auf Gund meines Hinterfragen, wie denn die plötzliche Stornierung zustande kommen Könnte, habe ich nach der darauffolgenden Antwort (Siehe Foto) gleich dem Support mitgeteilt, rein prophylaktisch, meine Kreditkarte mit einer naglelneuen Karte ausgetauscht zu haben, damit etwaige Probleme gleich ausgeschlossen werden können.

The proof that my documents were reset without explanation.

I revised everything again yesterday, especially with the updated details. It came back today without any comment. I was hoping it would finally go through, which is one of the reasons I wanted to wait before replying here. Das Selfi ist mit Personalausweis in der Form gar nicht durchzuführen, besser gesagt durchzuführen schon, nur nicht in der Auflösung, die vom Casino zudem verlangt wird. Um es aber dennoch zu lösen, lässt man sich etwas einfallen. Damit es annähernd die Qualität erreichen kann, fotografiert man in einen Spiegel, aber war anscheinend keine gute Idee.(siehe Foto, übrigens, falls Sie es öffentlich setzen möchten, wäre mir das Schwärzen meines Fotos sehr lieb..😉))) Den eindeutigen Beweis liefern die heutigen Anforderungen, woraus hervorgeht, dass kein Foto vom Screenshot, hinsichtlich der Kreditkarte akzeptiert wird. Weil ich mir sicher bin, Nachts jeden einzelnen Mitarbeiter wecken könnte, wenn ich dann nach den Geschäftsbedingungen fragen würde, käme wie aus der Pistole geschossen, von jeglichen Banken dieser Erde, eine richtige Antwort, bis ins kleinste Detail. Sie wissen ganz genau, dass keine Bank ein Selfi, aus Sicherheitsgründen zulässt, genauso wie sie wissen, was Banken stattdessen zulassen, bzw. für Möglichkeiten bereitstellen. Zum Beispiel steht auf dem Kontoverifizierungs-Dokument, jegliches an persönlichen Daten, nur sind dort nicht die Kartennummern aufgelistet, was sie ja eindeutig verlangen. Ich habe in der Tat mal Rücksprache diesbezüglich gehalten. Es wurde mir gesagt, dass auf den Auszügen die Kreditkartennummer mit ***XXX***aufgeführt sei, was für jegliche Verifizierung für den Gesetzgeber in Bezug auf eine KYC Verifizierung ausreichen würde. Ich kann von denen auch nicht erwarten, weil das Casino doof spielt, für mich Extrawürste gebraten werden müsste. Was ich voll und ganz verstehe. Ich würde sogar meinen Gewinn darauf verwetten, so sicher bin ich mir, nur leider beweist es die nackten Tatsachen. This whole situation is really taking its toll. I'm at my wit's end trying to figure out what else I can do to satisfy the casino.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Derzahndealer

Hello Petra,

I would like to address the demands of two employees who, independently of each other, requested a selfie and my ID card. They also demanded a screenshot of my virtual credit/debit card. This is, in my opinion, unbelievable. Nevertheless, and this is completely absurd, I took numerous selfies in the hope that the text on my personal information might be sharper and thus accepted. Taking a photo in the mirror seemed like the ideal solution, but it was rejected for inexplicable reasons.

It seems that this requirement is no longer relevant. However, the requirement to provide virtual credit cards only via screenshot remains. I have already expressed my opinion on this.

I'd like to point out that I'm certainly holding back some thoughts and comments, as I'm mainly expressing frustration here. At the casino, I adhere to the rules and try to find solutions. I've also tried to avoid the chat, as I find the exaggerated apologies unhelpful. Often, you leave the chat no wiser than when you entered it.

The requirements are clearly defined, and I am striving to fulfill them. However, I am unsure whether any discussions have already taken place with the casino. I would like to know how I should assess the situation, particularly why there has been a change of heart. If a conversation has taken place, it would clearly mean that they are continuing their disrespectful practices, albeit in a scaled-down form, even in your presence. This would further confirm my statement that they have created their own little world there and don't have to show any real respect to anyone or anything.

Nevertheless, I remain committed and am working in parallel on their demands in order to potentially complete the verification successfully. I am convinced that there will potentially be more to come regarding the payment frequency after that.

I'm attaching more screenshots here that will surely further support my statements. Have a pleasant start to the week.

Best regards,

The tooth dealer

Hallo Petra,

ich möchte auf die Forderung von zwei Mitarbeitern eingehen, die unabhängig voneinander ein Selfi sowie meinen Personalausweis gefordert haben. Und zudem noch die Screenshot Forderung, bei einer virtuellen Kreditkarte/Guthabenkarte. Dies ist aus meiner Sicht unfassbar, Ich habe es dennoch, was eigentlich völllig absurd ist, zahlreiche Selfies gemacht, in der Hoffnung, dass die Schrift auf meinen persönlichen Daten möglicherweise schärfer abgebildet wird und somit akzeptiert werden könnte. Die Idee, ein Foto im Spiegel zu machen, schien mir eine optimale Lösung zu sein, wurde jedoch aus unerklärlichen Gründen abgelehnt.

Es scheint, dass diese Anforderung inzwischen nicht mehr relevant ist. Dennoch besteht die Anforderung, Kreditkarten in virtueller Form nur per Screenshot zur Verfügung zu stellen. Hierzu habe ich bereits meine Meinung geäußert.

Ich möchte anmerken, dass ich einige Gedanken und Äußeruntgen, sicherlich zurückhalte, da ich hier hauptsächlich Frustration ausdrücke. Im Casino halte ich mich an die Anforderungen und versuche, Lösungen zu finden. Ich habe zudem versucht, den Chat zu vermeiden, da ich die übertriebenen Entschuldigungen als wenig hilfreich empfinde. Oft verlässt man den Chat so schlau wie man hineingegangen ist.

Die Anforderungen sind klar formuliert, und ich bin bemüht, diese abzuarbeiten. Ich bin mir jedoch nicht sicher, ob bereits Gespräche mit dem Casino stattgefunden haben. Ich würde gerne wissen, wie ich die Situation eingeschätzt kann, insbesondere warum es zu einem Umdenken gekommen ist, wenn eine Konversation stattgefunden hat, würde es ganz klar bedeuten, dass sie es in abgespeckter Form, sogar vor euren Augen, respektlos weitermachen. Und einmal mehr bestätigt, in meiner Aussage, dass sie sich dort ihre eigene kleine Welt aufgebaut haben und vor nichts und niemanden wirklich Respekt aufbringen müssen.

Trotzdem bleibe ich engagiert und arbeite parallel an deren Forderungen, um die Verifizierung möglicherweise erfolgreich abzuschließen. Ich bin überzeugt, dass es potenziell danach, hinsichtlich der  Auszahlungsfrequenz noch einiges auf mich zukommen wird.

Ich füge hier weitere Screenshots hinzu, die meine Aussagen sicherlich noch einmal untermauern werden. Wünsche einen angenehmen Start in die Woche.

Viele Grüße,

Derzahndealer

Thank you for your reply and for providing the previous details, Derzahndealer.

• Can you log in to your account now?
• Did you play with bonus money or free spins?
• Could you provide any additional evidence/communication you had with the casino? This can include screenshots, emails, or chat records. You can send me all the documents to: [email protected] or post your screenshots to the thread.

Thank you again for your cooperation.

Hello Petra,

I need to report a massive escalation. Today at 4:00 AM, while I was checking my status, the casino cancelled all my pending withdrawals (€1,500) within seconds.

In the chat, the support first gave me a scripted lie, claiming I hadn't deposited for 90 days (my account is only 4 weeks old). When I pointed this out, they changed the story to a "system update" and told me to wait another 24 hours.

Furthermore, the casino is forcing me to use a verification app that requires technically impossible tasks (capturing a sharp ID and a flickering monitor background in one selfie). This is clearly a move to force me into failure.

I have fulfilled every reasonable requirement, including providing official Revolut Bank Certificates which theAside from that, I still thought my improvised photo was by far the best. The person who created these demands can even explain to me how to access certain files in my banking account, right down to the subdirectory. They also know that taking a screenshot, as is mandatory for virtual cards, is simply impossible. Conditional security measures. If this isn't deliberate stalling, then I don't know what is!y continue to ignore in favor of their broken app. It is obvious that SpiNational is doing everything to avoid paying my €7,440.85 balance. I ask the Guru team to step in now, as the stalling has reached a level of systematic harassment. Ich werde ein über ein anderes Mal mit neuen Aufgaben konfrontiert, einmal ohne Personalausweis, ein weiteres mal mit, oder mit auf dem Selfie in meiner Hand. Aside from that, I still thought my improvised photo was by far the best. The person who created these demands can even explain to me how to access certain files in my banking account, right down to the subdirectory. They also know that taking a screenshot, as is mandatory for virtual cards, is simply impossible. Conditional security measures. If this isn't deliberate stalling, then I don't know what is! Screenshots/Konversation gehen nachher an die vorliegende Adresse.

Dear Derzahndealer

Thank you for your cooperation and for providing all the necessary information. I truly appreciate the time and effort you’ve taken to share everything with us so far.

Your complaint will now move to the next stage of our process and be handled by your dedicated Resolver Jana ([email protected]). This is a standard step in our procedure, as the Resolver will take over communication with the casino directly and manage your case from this point onward.

No action is required from you right now. Your Resolver will reach out through this thread if any additional details are needed. You can rest assured that your case is in very capable hands.

I wish you the best of luck and hope your case will be resolved to your satisfaction soon.

Kind regards,

Petra

Dear Derzahndealer,

My name is Jana and from now on, I will assist you with resolving your complaint. I am sorry to hear that your withdrawal has been delayed. I will contact the casino and try my best to resolve the issue as soon as possible.

Now I would like to invite Spinational Casino representative to join this conversation and participate in the resolution of this complaint.

Dear casino, could you please state the reason why the player's withdrawal has not yet been processed?

Thank you in advance for providing the information.

Hello, I've prepared something regarding the events of last night, in case they come up, so you can respond accordingly. I'm still at work and could send it later this afternoon. I suspect my response will reach you before the casino replies, but I just wanted to mention it now!

The dental dealer

Hallo, ich habe zu den aktuellen. Ereignissen von gestern Abend noch etwas vorbereitet, falls es zur Sprache kommt, damit sie entsprechend Antworten können. Ich bin noch arbeiten, würde es am späten Nachmittag nachreichen können....ich vermute, dass meine Antwort Sie eher erreichen wird, als das Casino antwortet, wollte es nur jetzt schon einmal erwähnt haben...!

DerZahndealer

Sending along: Screenshots as evidence!!

Nachsendend: Screenshots zur Beweislage!!

These first two shots are still part of the chat, above.

Diese ersten beiden Shots, gehören noch zum Chat, oben.

Dear all,

We kindly inform you that we are checking on the matter with our relevant team and we will have updates for you as soon as possible.

Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Best regards,

Spinational Team