Онлайн-Казино Casinia — общее обсуждение (Страница 19)

... 18 pages of discussion, unresolved customer complaints here & at AskG, as well as at the sister casinos.

Instead of warning of caution in red above, an 8.3 out of 10 shines in friendly green and helps prevent others from losing money and not receiving their winnings.

In my case it's only 75 euros, open for 4 weeks, given the unresolved complaints and the small amount, a complaint makes no sense.

I actually think highly of CasinoGuru and consider you, for example, LCB, to be reputable operators. I also understand that you have to pay your employees, etc., and that casinos like this certainly pay high bonuses, but the way things are now, you're supporting fraud because, for example, newbies see your rating, think it's reputable, and end up not getting their winnings. I've learned to check AskG, in addition to CG, for unresolved complaints before I deposit, but probably only 5% do that.

Presumably the casino could have hundreds of thousands of "black dots" and still not be red... 🙁

... 18 Seiten Diskussion, unbearbeitete Kundenbeschwerden hier & bei AskG, sowie bei den Schwestercasinos.

Statt oben in rot Vorsicht auszusprechen, strahlt in freundlichem Grün eine 8.3 von 10 und trägt dazu bei, das andere Geld verlieren und ihre Gewinne nicht erhalten.

In meinem Fall sinds nur 75 Euro, seit 4 Wochen offen, angesichts der ungelösten Beschwerden und kleinen Betrag macht eine Beschwerde keinen Sinn.

Ich halte eigentlich wirklich viel von CasinoGuru und halte euch zB mit LCB als seriöse Akteure. Ich verstehe auch, das Ihr eure Mitarbeiter usw bezahlen müsst und Casinos wie dieses sicher hohe Bonusse bezahlen aber so wie es jetzt ist, unterstützt Ihr damit Betrug indem zB Neulinge eure Wertung sehen, denken es ist seriös und am Ende nicht ihren Gewinn bekommen. Ich hab inzwischen gelernt neben CG bei AskG zu schauen ob ungelöste Beschwerden existieren bevor ich einzahle aber das tun vermutlich nur 5%.

Vermutlich könnte das Casino hunderttausende "schwarze Punkte" haben und wäre immernochnicht rot ... 🙁

Hi!

Hold on, for a second - perhaps there is a sort of missunderstanding. There has been no uresolved complaints against this casino:

https://casino.guru/complaints/all

Have you by chance mistaken that with forum posts or user reviews which has nothing to do with the rating?

I mean, your idea is good - if there had been unresolved complaints the rating would have been lower in proportion to the severenity of the complaints - represented by black points.

However, as you can see all reported problems have always been resolved. As far as we can say based on the complaint you mentioned, the casino pays. I also could not find a single unresolved complaint submitted by you.

May I know, where the catch seems to be?

Hello Radka 🙂

Sorry if I expressed myself in a confusing way.

There are unresolved complaints on AskG, https://www.askgamblers.com/de/online-casinos/test/casinia-casino/complaints

There are also serious points that speak against the seriousness, for example TrustPilot, that the casino has an extremely high number of cases on AskG compared to its small size (which is probably why it only gets a 4 out of 10 rating) and an extremely long response time of 8 days, i.e. after a warning.

And if you rightly show users the unresolved issues of sister casinos with the same management when you list them as "Unsolved," I also find it unrealistic not to credit this to this casino as well, especially since it's only a matter of time. It seems to have only been like this recently with AskG, before they reacted.

And when they withhold €75 from me (for weeks now, I've only been getting emails saying they'll forward it again with "highest priority"), that gives you a good idea of what's going on there right now. Either you're "saving" on amounts of, say, less than €100 because you know no one will take action (and, say, 75 black points won't do anything for you), or you have more serious problems, which can happen quickly at smaller casinos.

Lg

Hallo Radka 🙂

entschuldigung, falls ich mich missverständlich ausdrückte.

Auf AskG gibt es ungelöste Beschwerden, https://www.askgamblers.com/de/online-casinos/test/casinia-casino/complaints

Auch gibt es doch schwere Punkte wo gegen die Seriösität sprechen, zB TrustPilot, dass das casino bei AskG eine extrem hohe Anzahl Cases hat im Vergleich zu seiner kleinen Grösse (auch darum wohl nur 4 von 10 Bewertung) und eine extrem lange Reaktionszeit von 8 Tagen, also nach Ermahnung.

Und wenn Ihr den Usern zu Recht bei "Ungelöst" auch die ungelösten der Schwestercasinos mit gleichen Management anzeigt, finde ich es auch realitätsfern wenn ich dies nicht auch diesem Casino anrechne, zumal es nur eine Frage der Zeit ist, bei AskG scheint es auch erst seit kurzem so zu sein, vorher reagierten sie.

Und wenn man mir 75 Euro vorenthält (per email kommt seit Wochen immer nur man leite es nochmal mit "höchster Prio" weiter) lässt das einiges erahnen was dort aktuell läuft. Entweder "sparen" Sie bei Beträgen von zB unter 100 weil Sie wissen das da keiner dagegen vor geht (und zb 75 schwarze Punkte bei euch garnix bewirken) oder Sie haben ernsthaftere Probleme was bei kleineren Casinos ja schnell passieren kann.

Lg

Hello, and thanks for the explanation. I should have started with the point explaining that I can add my or let's say demonstrate CG optics to that subject. My bad, sorry. 🙂

Well, I guess every player may use the whole internet to create an opinion on a casino. My colleagues, instead of that, consider evaluated situations. Based on our experiences with the external sources, we chose this way.

However, I know there is a person tracking external complaints—not TP reviews, because their policies are absurd. As long as they allow players to review Casino Guru for not paying out the winnings or delaying withdrawals, that's besides the point. 😀

However, you are correct; the more sources players aim to seek, the better, and we have never presented our website as the only way to get familiar with casinos.

When it comes to black points, those are "awarded" only for unresolved complaints, which is not usually very appreciated. However, if you check any casino review—not just the number—you will see the latest complaints directly there, so once you spot an unresolved complaint, I guess it is a fair clue. Also, sister sides are included, as you can see:

I understand the website is very complex, and browsing all reviews, tabs, or even forums, or understanding what the Safety Index actually means, is not an easy task.

Safety Index also takes into consideration the casinos scale, so what would not affect a bigger international casino may ruin a smaller, local online casino based on the amount of the black points awarded.

I understand the feeling that each Safety Index needs to correspond with the "general opinion." Yet the experiences differ; hence, it is not possible to reach that goal.

Thus, we ask players to express their experiences—good or bad—on the forum, through the reviews, and so on.

Let me know if you want to delve deeper.