Вопрос об азартных сайтах с лицензией Кюрасао, использующих неверный код категории продавца. (Страница 164)

As I told you, there are two sides to the coin. In your case, I am sorry.

If you follow your logic, you could gamble without risk. If I win (regardless of the validity of the license), I pay out my winnings, if I lose, I run to the bank and cry that I've been cheated. I call it gambling without risk, and some banks put a stop to it by rightly staying out of chargebacks. Visa doesn't allow chargebacks in connection with gambling, by the way. The bank stays out of it accordingly.

The court is open to them.

Oh, forgot to mention:

Take a look at your bank's terms and conditions, as the use of the card for illegal purposes should be prohibited there. Regardless of whether you did so knowingly or unknowingly. If you used the card for gambling despite this passage in the terms and conditions, you will not get anything back.

Wie ich Dir bereits gesagt habe, hat die Medaille zwei Seiten. In deinem Fall tut es mir leid.

Wenn es nach deiner Logik geht, könnte man ohne Risiko zocken. Gewinn ich(unabhängig von der Gültigkeit der Lizenz), zahle ich meine gewinne aus, verliere ich, renne ich zur Bank und Weine ich bin betrogen worden. Zocken ohne Risiko nenne ich es, da schieben einige Banken den Riegel vor in dem sie sich zurecht aus einem Chargeback raushalten. Visa erlaubt im übrigen keine. Chargebacks im Zusammenhang mit Glücksspiel. Dementsprechend hält die Bank sich raus.

Der Klageweg steht die frei🙂

Achso, vergessen zu erwähnen:

Schaut Mal in die AGB eurer Bank da dürfte die Nutzung der karte für illegale Zwecke ausgeschlossen sein. Egal ob unwissentlich oder wissentlich. Habt ihr trotz dieser Passage in den AGB die Karte für Glücksspiel genutzt, gibt's nichts zurück

WtH you are trying to make out that I am trying to reap thousands back it was 1 deposit of £100 so I don't know where you get off calling me or anyone an addicted gambler. I am financially secure and belive me I won't be sleeping under any bridges due to one transaction which I have every right on claiming back. As you can not and refuse to see the point. I did not use the funds I asked for a withdrawal my account was blocked so what is your issue by law if I haven't recived a service regardless of whom has recived the funds I am entitled to recive my funds back. If the site is refusing communication and acknowledgement I have the right to ask my bank. To intervene as I said before I had proof they took the money by MISCODING but the money ended up via the site regardless how you want to spin it. I have looked at the terms and conditions of my bank actually hence why the bank is going ahead with the chargeback. It's not a goodwill gesture banks have to abide by the FSCS. A merchant can dispute the chargeback but also have to provide evidence of what was purchased as I have evidence that deposit went to the gaming site by time stamps of deposit on site as I had to query it as it wasn't showing in balance but said success. As soon as I questioned it my account was closed. So do you mean to tell me. I should just roll over and take the loss? You have the wrong one. You seem to be champion for these criminals.regardless what situations people get themselves in you have no place to pass any judgement on their situation or speculate on what may happen. Who the hell do you think you are being so judgemental if you haven't got anything nice to say don't say anything.

Oh come on... Why do you feel so attacked? I wrote that the people who contacted me have lost thousands of euros, not you. It's not all about you, princess.

If you are financially secure, do you have a need to gamble? I honestly don't care what your situation is.

I'm not attacking anyone, I'm just pointing out that the others have a bigger problem than "lost money".

Calm down Caren, I assume that it is more than 100.00 for you. If I am financially secure, then I don't give a shit about the 100 and won't make a big fuss here

And I hate this type of payment processing just as much as everyone else here, I'm just showing you the possibilities of how it could fail, the criminals are not using this type of payment processing for nothing. Accordingly, it is a political problem of the laws and the implementation of MasterCard

Not everyone can handle criticism and the truth.

As a former addict and regular gambler, I know what I'm talking about. I recognize your behavior and behavior patterns. 😉

Ach komm... Warum fühlst Du Dich so angegriffen? Ich schrieb, dass die Leute die mich kontaktiert haben Tausende von Euro verspielt haben, nicht Du es dreht sich nicht alles um dich Prinzessin.

Wenn Du finanziell abgesichert bist, dann hast Du es nötig zu spielen? Mir ist es ehrlich gesagt egal was bei Dir der Fall ist.

Ich greife niemanden an, ich Stelle nur fest, das die anderen ein größeres Problem haben als das "verlorene Geld".

Beruhige dich Caren, ich gehe davon aus, dass es bei dir mehr als 100,00 ist. Wenn ich finanziell abgesichert bin, dann scheiße ich auf die 100 und mach hier keine große Welle

Und ich hasse diese Art der Zahlungsabwicklung genauso wie alle anderen hier, ich zeige euch nur die Möglichkeiten woran es Scheitern könnte, die kriminellen nutzen nicht umsonst diese Art der Zahlungsabwicklung. Dementsprechend ist es ein politisches Problem der Gesetze und det Umsetzung von MasterCard

Kritik und die Wahrheit kann nicht jeder vertragen.

Als ehemaliger süchtiger und regelmäßig spielender weiß ich wovon ich rede. Ich erkenne eure Verhaltensweisen bzw. Verhaltensmuster. 😉

Your talking out off your backside just because you had an issue don't tar people with the same brush, and don't make assumptions. Yes I am financially secure. It's principle I am no mug and I do not like being taken for granted or being treated like a mug. I understand the implications of how things can fail with the payments but you went into attack mode, making assumptions when it was unjustified when all I was requesting was for a refund of my deposit that was unused and I had pointed out that they had used a 3rd party merchant to process payment you got on your high horse it would be a different situation if I had used the funds but I hadn't. And we keep going with the insults. It's laughable it's Karen not caren lol and I am far from a princess but carry on, not once have I wrote anything to offend you but if it makes you feel impowered by throwing insults carry on as nothing you can say fazes me. How's life under that bridge?

As for you reconize my behavior and my behaviour patterns, you reconize nothing. You are only making assumptions based on your own past behaviour, your looking for something that is not there. Sign of a narcissist lol. You have got me all figured out my habits ect and you don't even know me, you have worked all this out just by communication through posts. Wow you have missed your calling you should be working for the police or something as profiling is your niche Not!!! You know Jack about me and my gambiling habits

If you don't feel addressed, why so salty? I can't tell you what life is like under a bridge, it should represent the end if people don't stop gambling. You can then ask that of the people who gamble away everything and think they'll just get it back. My bed was always warm and cozy.

You can twist and turn it however you want, this is a discussion forum, other opinions should be accepted, and contributions that are somewhat critical should also be allowed.

And again:

Reading and understanding are two important things, the post was aimed at people who had lost more than 50k, no more and no less. I didn't address you or mean you, so you don't need to feel addressed.

Wenn Du dich nicht angesprochen fühlst, warum so salty?. Kann ich dir nicht sagen, wie das Leben unter einer Brücke ist, es sollte das Ende darstellen, wenn die Leute nicht aufhören zu zocken.Dass kannst Du dann die Leute fragen die alles verzocken und glauben sie bekämen es einfach so zurück. Mein Bett war immer warm und kuschelig.

Du kannst es drehen und wenden wie du willst, es ist hier ein Diskussionsforum, da sollten auch andere Meinungen akzeptiert werden , auch Beiträge sollten zugelassen sein die etwas kritisch sind.

Und nochmals:

Lesen und verstehen sind zwei wichtigen Dinge, der Beitrag war an die Leute gerichtet, die mehr als 50k Verzockt hatten, nicht mehr und nicht weniger. Ich habe dich nicht angesprochen bzw. Gemeint, daher brauchst du dich nicht angesprochen fühlen.

Could you share more details about the chargeback? I'm currently going through the dispute with chase myself

Since candapay.io asked for my ID I haven't heard anything since or no refund.... worried now

What happened after ? I sent it too.

Make sure you save the email that says they need your ID. They won't claim later that you verified yourself with them. It's best to document the entire process.

Heb die E-Mail unbedingt auf, in der steht dass sie den Ausweis brauchen. Nicht dass sie später behaupten, dass Du dich bei denen verifiziert hast. Am besten den gesamten Verlauf dokumentiert.

I said I didn’t get any services or goods, I was transparent and said I authorised the transactions for a casino which was illegal. I explained that they use the merchants to bypass security in the uk and they’ve closed the case and given me my money back. I’m putting forward a second chargeback as we speak.

So I’ve just put through a new chargeback for wintermads, they said they was investigating my refund but started to ignore me so I’ve went to chase bank, will the bank contact them? Or just refund and that’s that. My first chargeback was successful

The bank will always contact the opposing bank regarding chargebacks. For me personally I opened around 12 chargebacks against WINTERMDSE and they refunded 3 of them and provided evidence for the remainder saying I bought artwork etc off them

I reported them to the inspection in the Norwegian police, people blew everything up

They’ve come back saying I brought nft art and it’s "on the blockchain", I hope they have sufficient evidence as I have evidence I haven’t had any nft art. Any other advice would be appreciated tho.

are you 100% sure it was gumball that processed the payments from zagora and cloud? I have sent emails since 25th of july but still no answers or money.

What kind of response have you received from Quickbit?

Can their activities be reported to any authority?

Vad har ni fått för respons utav Quickbit?

Kan man anmäla deras förehavanden till någon instans?

Which merchants where under support@paymentz.co.uk?